2018 ATP Rankings & Schedule

Steerpike60 wrote:From what I read, Roger should be the number #2 seed at Cincy UNLESS Del Potro reaches at least the final of his next scheduled event at Los Cabos and wins Toronto. Sascha is defending champion at Canada, so he can't pass Roger.

The Final in Toronto is on Sunday Aug. 12 - The draw for Cincy will take place on Friday Aug. 10, which means that Cincy will be using the rankings of Monday Aug. 6 (after Washington/Los Cabos). So, Toronto doesn't come into play and Roger is guaranteed to be seeded #2 in Cincy.

The real question is whether he will be seeded #2 at the US Open. Obviously it will depend of his result at Cincy, and that of a few others!     I'll try to answer that question in more details later on.

Cromar wrote:Of course, striker, by not playing Toronto, Roger is missing an opportunity to add points to his RACE tally, but he won't lose points.  

I wouldn't worry though, with 4020 points and having won a GS, there is little doubt that Roger will qualify for the WTF.

Steerpike60 wrote:Yeah, he'll qualify for the WTFs.  If you win a major, you basically qualify as long as you stay in the Top 20.

Yes, provided there are not two of them in that situation, as one of them would be alternate (#8 and 9 on the direct acceptance list).  Unlikely, yes, but the rules does provide for that possibility.

Always a glitch.

Cromar wrote:

Steerpike60 wrote:From what I read, Roger should be the number #2 seed at Cincy UNLESS Del Potro reaches at least the final of his next scheduled event at Los Cabos and wins Toronto. Sascha is defending champion at Canada, so he can't pass Roger.

The Final in Toronto is on Sunday Aug. 12 - The draw for Cincy will take place on Friday Aug. 10, which means that Cincy will be using the rankings of Monday Aug. 6 (after Washington/Los Cabos). So, Toronto doesn't come into play and Roger is guaranteed to be seeded #2 in Cincy.

The real question is whether he will be seeded #2 at the US Open. Obviously it will depend of his result at Cincy, and that of a few others!     I'll try to answer that question in more details later on.

Well, that makes sense. But as you say... the real question will be the USO. Let's hope Roger holds onto #2 for that. We all remember last year when Murray was seeded #2 and then (as per usual) pulled out AFTER the draw and messed everything up.

I thought I saw Roger won in Canada. So whos right? The old site was so good. Could back years & find out everything!!!

What do you mean "won in Canada"?  Roger has won Canada twice (both in Toronto).  He's never won the event when it was held in Montreal, but it's the same event.  Roger did not win last year as he lost to Sascha in the final (he hurt his back).

>>We were talking about points & I thought he had to defend some, that's all! Im not good at keeping up.

He is defending finals points from Canada: 600 points.  So, he will lose those in the regular ATP rankings.  But for the "Race", he just won't gain any.  But he's not defending anything from Cincy, so hopefully he can pick up some there.

It will always be No. 2 but the race, it will be at best 3rd ... must he come back I miss him terribly!

With Del Potro's withdrawal from Toronto and Zverev failing to defend his title (losing 820 points), Roger is now guaranteed to remain No. 2 after Cincy and therefore will be #2 seed at the US Open.  

Right now, Roger has 6470 points and even if Delpo (5400) or Zverev (4845) were to win Cincy, they couldn't catch Roger. And hopefully Roger will get a few more points at the W&S Open, as he has no point to defend having not played last year. Nadal sits at the top with 9310 points and is therefore untouchable for now.

As for the RACE, Roger is still in third position with 4265 points, but only 245 points behind Zverev (#2). The top guy (Nadal) has 6760 points and has officially qualified for the World Tour Finals.

^^^
Thanks for the info Cromar!

Roger is certain to stay in the top 2 after the US Open

Marly, I am not sure if this a question, or an assertion, so I'll answer it this way: It's likely that Roger will remain No. 2 after the US Open, but there are a couple of exceptions to that. Please see my post below, with the Ranking Charts, where I will outline in details what those are.

Finally an update of the Ranking Chart!    This is Revision #3 for 2018, updated following Cincinnati (Aug 22).

Note that this chart covers the top 15 players, the three segments having been reduced to 5 players each (instead 6) to facilitate on-screen viewing.
The players are listed in ATP Ranking order, with their corresponding RACE standing near the bottom of the chart (highlighted in wine color).

Roger's ranking post US Open:

Roger has been No. 2 since Halle and is likely to remain in that position following the US Open. There are, however, a couple of scenarios that could see him become either No. 1 or No. 3.

Roger will remain No. 2 after the US Open, except if:

• Roger wins the US Open (8720 points) and Nadal loses before the SF (8400 points or less), then Roger would become No. 1!
  
• Del Potro or A. Zverev wins the US Open (6780/6800 points respectively), and Roger loses in the 1st or 2nd round (6730/6765 points), then Roger would move to No. 3.
  

The US Open may well be the decisive factor that will establish who will end up being World No 1 at the end of the year.
 

These charts leave me breathless!

The 'Round-by-Round Chart' for the US Open 2018


To follow the top 20 players, points by points, throughout the Championship.

Roger could clinch the No. 1 ranking if he wins the and Nadal doesn't reach the semi-finals.
Otherwise, Roger is expected to remain No. 2 after the US Open, unless Del Potro or A. Zverev wins the title and Roger doesn't get to the 3rd round. In that case, Roger would move to No. 3.





(Also posted in the US Open 2018 thread.)